What can you tell me about buprenorphine (Suboxone, Subutex)?
What are methadone patients to do when drug testing is required for a job?
Told to detox off methadone because of pregnancy.
I want to detox. What's the best way to do so?
I have gained a lot of weight on methadone; I sweat a lot, and I get constipated. Is this common?
I go to a low dose clinic and have a hard time getting increases. What should I do?
My significant other's counselor wants him to detox. He doesn't want to. What should he do?
Can you tell me about Rapid Detox (UROD)--they say they put you to sleep and you're cured.
Does methadone make a person confused, irritable, or angry?
How long will I be on methadone?
Immune functioning and methadone
Illicit Heroin Use and Immune Function
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Can you tell me a little about your organization?
Do you want information about DON'T, ARM, or both? You can read about DON'T on the home page of the Methadone Today newsletter. DONT is the Michigan advocacy group for methadone patients, and ARM is a national methadone advocacy organization. Both organizations are 501(c)3 non-profits.
Both organizations have newsletters. DONT's publication is Methadone Today, a local newsletter which has been published since August 1995. It is a four-page monthly publication whereas ARM's newsletter is a national 12-page quarterly publication. The first issue was Fall 1999.To Home PageBoth organizations also work to dispel the myths and end the stigma attached to methadone. We educate patients, clinic staff, the medical profession and general public. No, methadone does not get into your bones or rot your teeth. Methadone is the most studied drug, and over 30 years of study has shown it to be safe and nontoxic.
What can you tell me about buprenorphine?
There is a new medication called buprenorphine (Subutex, Suboxone) that can be prescribed by doctors who have taken the proper training, but it may be difficult for some patients to switch from methadone to this medication. You should reduce your dose to 30 mg or less in order to switch over, or you could be thrown into withdrawal. If you are doing okay on 60 mg of methadone, you would probably do fine on buprenorphine. Anyone who needs more than 60 mg of methadone may not do well on buprenorphine.
Buprenorphine is more expensive than methadone because the pharmaceutical company still owns the patent; there is no generic drug yet. Your insurance company may pay for the prescription, but you may want to check this out prior to switching.
If you want to check into this, you should go to http://www.SAMHSA.gov
Click on Addiction Treatment, then click on Office Based Treatment Now
Available, and finally, click on Physician Locator.
Methadone does not show up as an opiate, one of the things for which
companies test. If they want to find out if you are taking
methadone,
they must check specifically for it. Not all companies do.
If they do check for it and don't hire you simply because you are taking methadone, then you have a case. Methadone patients are covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), and you can file a grievance with the Justice Department.
If you don't get hired because you are taking methadone, you should
try to get it in writing. If you can't, that doesn't mean you
shouldn't
still file against the company. Drug testing is usually the last
step in the hiring process, so it is usually quite apparent what the
deal
is.
I'm pregnant, and I was told that I would have to get off methadone because it would hurt the baby. I have tried, but I can't seem to detox. Do you have any suggestions?
Do not berate yourself for taking this medication. That is what it is--a medication for a chronic, relapsing disease. Scientific studies have shown that pregnant, opiate-using women should immediately begin methadone maintenance treatment instead of risking relapse to heroin or other short-acting opiates. Heroin withdrawal is harmful, but methadone improves the chances for the unborn fetus.
Call the NIDA clearinghouse and ask for TIP 5, "Improving Treatment for Drug-Exposed Infants." It tells pregnant women to run, don't walk, to your nearest methadone maintenance program and get on methadone. It improves the chances for a healthy baby as opposed to remaining on short-acting opiates. This book is free for the asking. Call (800) SAY NOTO and ask for an information specialist. Then ask them for the above-mentioned book.To Home PageThe TIP and TAP books are not simply one person's opinion. It is a consensus of experts in the field. You would do well to start with these TIP books.
Can you direct me to research about the risks of breast feeding when on low doses of methadone?
I recommend TIP 2 from the Department of Health and Human Services for "Pregnant, Substance-Using Women" and TIP 5 also from the DHHS, "Improving Treatment for Drug-Exposed Infants." These can be obtained free of charge by calling (800) SAY NOTO and simply asking for TIP 2 and TIP 5.Actually, there are no risks to the infant when breast feeding while taking methadone, period. It is not contraindicated but is encouraged. In fact, the small amount of methadone that may be in the breast milk should help if the infant is born dependent on the medication. It should help ease withdrawal in that case.
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And by all means, if you put yourself on a schedule but find that you don't feel well, stop dropping and stabilize until you feel better. You may even want to go up a few milligrams until your body adjusts. Don't decide that you want to be completely off methadone by the next season coming up because your body might not listen to you. It might tell you that you shouldn't be completely off until next year--or the year after.
Before you even attempt to withdraw, ask yourself why you want to do so. If it is because your counselor or your parents or your significant other wants you to, forget it. You won't be successful. You must be the one who wants it, and you need to have all your affairs in order. That means you need to be working or doing something that you like to do, your finances should be in order, and you shouldn't have any issues you haven't dealt with. If you are ill or under stress, you absolutely do not want to try to withdraw at this time.
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I've gained
a lot of weight on methadone; I sweat a lot,
and I get constipated. Is this common?
Many people gain weight when they quit using drugs. There is nothing to suggest that methadone "causes" the weight gain. It is more likely the change in behavior when you quit using. Let's face it--using opiates is usually a full-time job. We have to find the money, then we run around trying to get the drugs. We don't eat right, and we would rather use our money for drugs than food. Once we get on methadone, we have a lot of time on our hands that we didn't have before.For some people, one of the side effects of methadone is profuse sweating. I have had patients tell me that the kind of methadone they take reduces sweating (i.e., wafer vs. cherry liquid methadose), and others have said that lowering their dose a little has helped.
Constipation is another side effect. However, it usually goes away with time.
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I go to a clinic that is considered low dosage. I am now on 80 mg. The last time I asked my counselor for a raise, she said, "You are on a terribly high dose right now. She also recommended that when I have take homes to try drinking half my dose in the morning and the other half later in the evening. Well, later at the end of the week, I asked her if I get a raise, and she said I did. When I needed a document for work, it said that I was on 80 mg., so I was apparently lied to. I still feel really bad. I had a physical to see if I had Hepatitis; my counselor said I had symptoms. Any ideas?
The sad fact is that many counselors and many doctors do not have a clue when it comes to methadone. Your dose is not high; in fact, it is at the lower end of the effective range, and it sounds like you need a raise immediately. See the following articles: When Enough is Not Enough and Optimizing Response to Methadone Maintenance Treatment: Use of Higher Dose Methadone.
Why did your counselor have you split your dose? Are you sleepy or nodding if you take it all at once? Are you a fast metabolizer? If not, there is absolutely no sense in taking a split dose when what you need is an increase. If you are not showing signs of toxicity, you should be given an increase immediately and without question.
You might want to ask them to take a serum level to find out how many ng/ml of methadone is in your blood. If your trough is lower than 400 ng/ml, you need an increase. The problem with these serum levels, however, is that some of the clinics will use it against the patient. Methadone has an active and inactive metabolite, and a serum level does not distinguish between the two. Therefore, this test can make it seem as though you are on an adequate dose when you really are not.Check out what I am talking about at:
http://www.methadonetoday.org/v2_n7.htm#DoseYou mention that your counselor said you have symptoms of Hepatitis. On what does she base this? Hepatitis may cause your dose to not hold you. I would insist upon a dose increase. Presently, it is felt that between 80 and 120 is an effective dose, but some patients need over 200 mg per day, and they are not overdosed. One patient is on 2,000 mg (yes, two thousand) per day. This person is a professional, and he is not overdosed. We need to get rid of this lingo "high dose" and "low dose" and start talking about individualized, effective doses.
Is there any chance you could go to a different clinic where they will dose you properly? Methadone is a great medication when it is used properly, and there is just absolutely no sense in you being miserable when a dose increase may turn things around.Your counselor and doctor may "really" think that 80 mg is a high dose, and they may "really" be concerned about overdosing you. If this is the case, they need to become educated about the pharmacology of methadone.
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My significant other is a "patient" in a methadone clinic. It has been two or three weeks since he went up in dose, and his counselor is already talking detox! This drug is cheaper and cleaner than heroin. He has no intention of detoxing at this time, but how much "counseling" must one get?
I don't mind getting the earful, but it really angers me when counselors talk about withdrawing when the patient is apparently not ready. When I get a counselor, I tell them in no uncertain terms that I am on methadone as a maintenance medication and that I refuse to discuss withdrawal with them. I am staying on this medication and that's all there is to it. Now, if they want to waste their time and my time, they can continue beating their head against the wall, but I am not listening. I tried to withdraw several times, but I was not successful.I have read every paper that I can get my hands on regarding methadone, and the reality is that most of us will either be on methadone for the rest of our lives OR we will be using short-acting opiates. Nobody "wants" to be on methadone for the rest of their life, but eighty to ninety percent of those patients who withdraw from methadone will relapse to short-acting opiates within two years.
I would like to know what counselors think they are accomplishing if they DO get a patient to withdraw from methadone. Trying to talk a patient into withdrawal is not counseling. Counseling is "listening" to the patient's concerns, supporting them and helping them reach their goals instead of trying to talk them into something they don't want.
Just because you are not a methadone patient, that doesn't preclude you from writing to Watchdog and filling out a clinic report. This program of needs to be in the doghouse; they are famous for trying to get patients to withdraw from this medication. Your significant other is not the only one who goes through this at the clinic of which you speak. This clinic IS a maintenance program! But there are certain counselors who continue to impose their values and wishes on the patients. Write to Watchdog and put it on the record that this clinic hassles patients to withdraw from this life-saving medication.
Tell your significant other to ignore the counselor who is telling him that it is not a maintenance program OR ask for a different counselor. Tell him to ask for one who understands methadone and who won't keep bugging your significant other to withdraw from his medication.
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What is your opinion about the hospitals that you go to where they put you to sleep, and when you wake up, you are cured; any truth to that?
The "treatment" you are talking about is called UROD (Ultra Rapid Opiate Detox). It is dangerous, and it doesn't work to cure addiction. Several people have died after UROD, and almost no one has remained free of opiates once the naltrexone implant is depleted. Some patients who have had this done have not even lasted until the naltrexone is gone. There have been reports of patients being so horribly ill from this that they have actually dug the implant out from underneath their skin. I urge you to forget about this.
You may be interested in the following article as to why patients keep returning to active addiction. This is why patients should stay on methadone:
http://www.methadonetoday.org/v4_n05.htm#withdrawnIf you want to read reports from people who have contacted Methadone Today after having UROD or RAAD done, there are many stories in the back issues of the newsletter. Following is an article I wrote and examples of what you will find people saying who have gone through this:
http://www.methadonetoday.org/v2n1.htm#NaltrexoneOf all those who have contacted me after having this procedure, only one said it was a positive experience. However, I have my doubts about this person since he was solicited by a doctor who does this procedure to call and give me a good report. All unsolicited reports have pleaded with me to let people know that it is a horrible experience.http://www.methadonetoday.org/v3_n03.htm#Cure
http://www.methadonetoday.org/v3_n07.htm#Rapid-Detox
http://www.methadonetoday.org/doctip3.htm#Naltrexone-Related
I know I've given you a lot of stories to read, but they are
relatively
short, and I hope you will take the time to read them. It took me some
time to locate them, so please give it a shot.
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I will be working with a man who is on methadone, and I wanted to know if there is anything about the drug or people who are on it that I should be aware of. Does it make them irritable, angry, confused, etc.?
No, it will seldom make a patient irritable, angry or confused. On the contrary, it is great as an anti-depressant. And, unlike short-acting opiates, it boosts the immune system. Often doctors will refuse to treat an AIDS patient if s/he is on methadone. Many doctors are unfortunately ignorant of the fact that methadone, a long-acting opiate, is unlike short-acting opiates in that area (short-acting opiates depress the immune system). AIDS patients in particular should remain on methadone.
Methadone may make the patient sleepy, but once stabilized, there is
no difference between a person on methadone and a "normal" person.
Studies
have shown that stabilized methadone patients can operate machinery,
drive
a car, etc. with no impairment. Most opiate addicts have a
dysfunctional
opiate receptor ligand system, and methadone normalizes it. That brings
us to your next question.
How long are patients usually on methadone?
Another area where methadone is misunderstood is the length of time a patient should be on it. It's just like insulin for the diabetic. Insulin controls diabetes--while the patient is taking it. Blood pressure medication controls hypertension--while the patient is taking it. Methadone controls the disease of opiate addiction--while the patient is taking it. Even the most well-adjusted, committed person should think long and seriously about withdrawing from this medication (80-90% relapse to daily opiate use within two years--most relapse much sooner). The odds are against us when we quit taking it.
I'd like to insert some comments from an interview from Dr. Vincent Dole, the father of methadone maintenance treatment. If you wish to read the whole interview, see:
http://www.methadonetoday.org/v3_n02.htm#Dr. Vincent DoleAlso see: http://www.methadonetoday.org/v4_n05.htm#withdrawn
Odus: Should counselors start a patient's treatment with the goal of eventually being totally drug free, including free of methadone?
Dr. Dole: I think that has been a very serious misunderstanding from the beginning. The goal is NOT abstinence; the goal is to become functional. The data collected over the years has shown that abstinence is an unlikely goal. It is a terrible mistake to put someone in the position of either eventually becoming abstinent or becoming a failure. I am very sorry to hear that many clinics continue to do just that. Unfortunately, that is a philosophy at many clinics. They are willing to "put up with" maintenance in the short term, but they feel that a patient isn't really "cured" unless they are abstinent.
Odus: Do you see any similarities between your model and the clinics that exist today?
Dr. Dole: Well, of course I see similarities, but the main difference is the philosophy, which has been drummed into them by those who are anti maintenance, that the patient isn't "cured" unless they are "drug free", no matter what else. The patient can be employed gainfully, taking care of his family, and in all respects a fine citizen; still they feel that unless he is free of methadone, he isn't "cured". That is totally opposite from what I believed then and still believe today.
Odus: What percentage of your patients were eventually able to live completely free of all drugs, including methadone?
Dr. Dole: You see, even you are prejudiced to a degree, you want to know how many people get off methadone altogether when the question should have been, "How many patients were able to achieve a normal life consistent with their own abilities, strengths and so forth." The answer to that question is, "quite a large percentage were able to go on with their lives with some people reaching very high social and employment positions."
There is such a misunderstanding about methadone as a maintenance medication. I was in treatment for the first six years not understanding its pharmacology or the way it should be used. I would try to withdraw from the medication every time a counselor would bring it up, "You're doing so well. It's about time you 'get off this stuff'." Of course I was doing well. My addiction was being controlled, but it no longer was when I starting getting "off this stuff."
As Dr. Dole mentioned in his interview for Methadone Today, for the most part those in the clinic system "put up with" methadone as an interim treatment. The whole point to the clinic system is counseling, and counseling is supposed to prepare the patient for abstinence. Granted, the majority of methadone patients have dual diagnoses. Counseling will help that. However, part of the problem is physical, and no amount of counseling is going to change that.
When I started reading everything I could get my hands on about
methadone
and finally understood that I am not a weak person or a moral
degenerate,
I decided that I will probably be on this medication for the rest of my
life. I no longer feel bad about it. Why should I? I
don't get high off methadone; I get normal.
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Is methadone used for heroin withdrawal?
Although it is used for withdrawal, it isn't its main use.
Opiate
addicts have withdrawn many, many times. Withdrawal isn't the
problem.
Staying off opiates is the problem. Methadone's main purpose is
to
replace the endorphins that opiate addicts' dysfunctional opiate
receptor
ligand system no longer manufactures (or manufactures to a lesser
degree
than the "average" person). Methadone is mainly used as a
maintenance
medication, and it is used to maintain those who have taken too many
short-acting
prescription opiates also.
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Is methadone used as a painkiller?
Yes, it is. In fact, it is a very good painkiller. It is usually
used
at much lower doses as a painkiller than for maintenance for opiate
addiction.
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I want to get a clinic started in my close-minded town. I am going to start a petition to open a methadone clinic here. Is there any advice you can give me as I start this task? I will be approaching the City Council and the County Board of Supervisors. It is a very backwards little town with small-town minds and views and this will be really tough. I need info on how to go about and do this correctly, can you steer me in the right direction ?
What I would do is have a firm grasp on all your facts and present them to one of the City Council or Supervisors on the Board at first. It is much easier to get one person to listen to you and give them the information than it is to try to convince everyone. Once you have the one person on your side, you can use him or her to help you convince the others.
You need to tell them that most likely what they have heard about methadone is not true. For example, it will not bring crime to their town. On the contrary, it reduces crime. It increases employment for the addicted, and it reduces heroin use. I don't have the percentages off the top of my head, but you need to have these statistics before you go to the first Supervisor. Be sure you have everything down pat before you talk to anyone.
Know your material like the back of your hand, and
let
them know where they can find information about methadone from the
experts.
You should order the TIP/TAP
series from the Department of Health and Human Services. You can
do that by calling (800) SAY NOTO and asking the information specialist
for the TIP/TAP series.* It doesn't cost you anything, so I would
order a set for you, and after you look them over, go through and order
some of the more relevant books for them.
*TIP 43 is now available. It has combined several different TIPs, all regarding Medication Assisted Treatment, so you may only wish to order this TIP instead of the series.
There is also a great collection of articles regarding methadone that you can download from the internet. It is called "Methadone Treatment Works." There is a link to it from my site. Go to the Methadone Today home page in the blue bulleted area and click on the link .
Don't forget to tell them that our former Drug Csar, Barry McCaffrey has said there needs to be more methadone made available to addicts. The Institute of Medicine, the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the American Medical Association, and many other prestigious organizations have said that methadone is the best treatment for opiate addiction to date.
I'm sure you will be able to think of more things to
do,
but this will get you started.
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What can you tell me about serum levels?
American methadone is a 50/50 mixture of active and inactive
forms.
Swiss sometimes use pure form that has only active methadone, as well
as
the mixed (racemic) product used for maintenance in the US. These
are called different names in different languages but are named for the
right-handed or left-handed nature of the way the molecule transmits
light.
What is important is that only one of these methadone forms is
biologically
active. Our traditional serum level lab tests are based on adding the
total
methadone, both right- and left-handed. Combined values, which equal
450
ng/ml or greater, are cited as
being the minimum necessary for good treatment and abolishing craving.
The problem is that some patients metabolize methadone in a way that allows the 50/50 ratio of inactive/active methadone to vary widely. Some Patients can have far too little of active methadone, described in the article below as "R" methadone, but still have serum levels in the normal range. Others can be comfortable with low serum methadone test results because they have larger than average "R" methadone fractions in their system. In patients whose active/inactive (R/S, in the article below) methadone ratio is is less than .67 (=40 percent active methadone), Swiss clinicians (JJD) have observed signs and symptoms of withdrawal and emergence of craving, although their total methadone serum level would appear to be adequate.
In the US we need to medicate patients based on clinical signs and symptoms more than on serum levels. Tests which measure the two isomers are now expensive, and our literature does not yet reflect broad clinical experience with their use. Pure "active" methadone, which is usually dosed at fifty percent of the dose of our methadone is unavailable here (and costly, if it were).
Also see: doctip3.htm#Serumv2_n7.htm#Dose
Replacement of (R)-methadone by a double dose of (R, S)-methadone in addicts: interindividual variability of the (R)/(S) ratios and evidence of adaptive changes in methadone pharmacokinetics.
C.B. Eap , T. Finkbeiner , M. Gastpar, N.Scherbau, K. Powell , P. Baumann, Unit de Biochimie et Psychopharmacologie Clinique, Dpartement Universitaire de Psychiatrie Adulte, H pital de Cery, CH-1008 Prilly-Lausanne, Switzerland Rheinische Land- und Hochschulklinik Essen, Postfach 103043, cD-45030 Essen, Germany.
In the second period, during racemic methadone treatment, important interindividual variability in the stereoselective disposition of the enantiomers of methadone was measured, with (R)/(S) ratios ranging from 0.63 to 2.40. This point should be taken into account particularly with respect to therapeutic drug monitoring of racemic methadone.
ISSN: 0031-6970 (printed version)
ISSN: 1432-1041 (electronic
version)
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Immune functioning and methadone
Many physicians or medical professionals incorrectly believe that methadone inhibits the immune system and functioning. While this is true of all opioids and especially the short acting opiates, it is not true of methadone. And in fact, methadone is the only opioid that does not inhibit the immune system or functioning. This is an important characteristic of methadone when considering its impact on HIV+ methadone patients. But methadone does not only not inhibit the immune system--it restores immune functioning.
The potential for normalization of endocrine and immune functioning
is especially crucial when treating HIV positive methadone patients.
The
evidence of immune restoration from HIV negative methadone patients
hints
that there may be a partial restoration of immune functioning for HIV
positive
methadone patients (Kreek, 1988). While this is not proven, there are
many
other advantages for HIV positive heroin users to be placed and
maintained
on methadone.
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In Switzerland a three-year prospective study followed a group of
HIV-infected
methadone maintenance patients and a contrast group of HIV-infected
heroin
users who did not enter methadone maintenance treatment (Weber,
Ledergerber,
Opravil & Luthy, 1990). The results showed that a
significantly
lower proportion of methadone maintenance patients progressed to AIDS
as
compared with the untreated heroin users, 24 percent versus 41 percent,
almost a two-fold increase within the period of the study.
Methadone when prescribed as a maintenance medication functions as a
normalizer for a deranged physiology and not as a mood altering
narcotic
substitute (Dole, Nyswander & Kreek, 1966; Joseph & Dole,
1970).
Methadone maintenance is therefore corrective but not curative.
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